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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[US Open Round 4 Board 2 - 2009 US Go Congress - Zhiyuan (Andy) Liu (7d) vs Eric Lui (7d)]PW[Zhiyuan (Andy) Liu]PB[Eric Lui]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-06]EV[US Open]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Burg]RE[W+12.50]
;B[pd]C[USGO2 [-\]: Andy hesitates on his first move.
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;W[pp]
;B[dc]
;W[cp]C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress!  Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament. 
USGO2 [-\]: Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more.
norg [3k\]: Didn't these two already play this tournament?
Q161 [13k?\]: yeah...
Q161 [13k?\]: last round...
Onmyoji [2d\]: theone vs bbw
Q161 [13k?\]: is this a replay?
ExplO [2d\]: they played in the NAIM I think
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;B[ce]
;W[eq]C[Arhiman [2k\]: pianist vs BBW, nice
norg [3k\]: BBW wins
norg [3k\]: c10
USGO2 [-\]: Andy and Eric played in the North American Ing Masters, round 2.  Andy won that game.
norg [3k\]: Opening Theory Made Easy says it is the move to make
Q161 [13k?\]: whats the difference?
A1R [8k\]: results?
norg [3k\]: Andy won
magners [2k\]: norg, this opening is made hard ;)
A1R [8k\]: resulttable
norg [3k\]: But a 9p said it!
USGO2 [-\]: Current results for the US Open can be found at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
USGO2 [-\]: Ing results can be viewed at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
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;B[jc]C[A1R [8k\]: thx
norg [3k\]: :(
wheelchair [1k\]: open theory isn't so easy as to say that there is always one move
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;W[dj]C[norg [3k\]: They didn't read Opening Theory
lonsan [1k\]: USGO, can you tell me which tournament had the gus price - mingjiu game? I heard about it but didn't get to see it
Q161 [13k?\]: so there are two different tournaments at same time?
lonsan [1k\]: three if you count the redmond cup
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;B[nq]C[Q161 [13k?\]: ...
GeorgeW [-\]: norg = books become outdated fast
GeorgeW [-\]: Especially one that is nearly 30 years old
lonsan [1k\]: especially when sometimes we don't get english translations for a decade, in some cases
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;W[qn]C[ExplO [2d\]: I read opening theory made easy and I don't where it says to play c10 instead of the top
USGO2 [-\]: I'm not seeing a game between Gus Price and Mingjiu in either tournament.
lonsan [1k\]: oh, i heard someone mention it being shorter than the feng yun - andrew 4d game so i wanted to see what happened...sorry, must've been a mistake :)
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;B[pr]C[USGO2 [-\]: Today’s EJ Team: Chris Garlock, Managing Editor; John Pinkerton, Recording Team Coordinator; Akane Negishi, KGS Admin; Steve Colburn, IT support; Matt Luce, Board 1; Chris Burg; Board 2; Max Peterson; Board 3; Solomon Smilack, Relief. 
lonsan [1k\]: hmm i think the dictionary of modern fuseki korean style would say to play l3 instead of q2
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2009 U.S. Open, Round 4, Board 2. I’m Chris, your game recorder. Enjoy the game!
norg [3k\]: Kogo says to play l3
GeorgeW [-\]: That's also pretty outdated
GeorgeW [-\]: haha
norg [3k\]: But it doesn't have k4 in, despite the fact it seems quite popular
lonsan [1k\]: the book, george? published 2004
GeorgeW [-\]: Yea
lonsan [1k\]: only 5 years, hard to get better than that
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;W[lq]C[GeorgeW [-\]: I know, it is too hard in the West to get better resources
GeorgeW [-\]: But it is the truth, many of its josekis and fusekis are no longer popular or professionals have thought of better variations
lonsan [1k\]: :( i rather like it, darn
USGO2 [-\]: Andy gets up for a glass of water.
GeorgeW [-\]: Only way to keep up to date is to study current professional games as they come out
GeorgeW [-\]: If you read an Asian language though, there are lots of websites that offers free professional commentary
norg [3k\]: The only problem with that is I realise I actually don't know how to study a game...
lonsan [1k\]: i'll wait until i pick up a few stones for that
lonsan [1k\]: :)
magners [2k\]: shame, that asian languages are not the easiest for european
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;B[qq]
;W[np]C[lonsan [1k\]: george, can you recommend a good database of pro games?
lonsan [1k\]: well, where recent ones are published i mean
GeorgeW [-\]: Well Go4Go is free update
GeorgeW [-\]: For the non-commented games
GeorgeW [-\]: http://igo-kisen.hp.infoseek.co.jp/news.html
lonsan [1k\]: thanks a bunch
GeorgeW [-\]: Also that one
GeorgeW [-\]: but it doesn't include all of the games
Q161 [13k?\]: what about commented games?
GeorgeW [-\]: and no problem
GeorgeW [-\]: Do you read Chinese or Korean?
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;B[mp]
;W[mq]
;B[nr]
;W[jp]C[Q161 [13k?\]: me?
lonsan [1k\]: no :(
lonsan [1k\]: french, but i imagine that won't help haha
Prodigious [5d?\]: Pro games are instructive enough even without comments
Prodigious [5d?\]: Although sometimes a bit incomprehensible :)
lonsan [1k\]: i find i learn from the directions in the opening, but after that aside a clever (and short, easy to follow) tesuji i have a hard time picking things up
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;B[qf]C[GeorgeW [-\]: Yes Q161
USGO2 [-\]: Andy nodded at this move
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;W[pj]C[Q161 [13k?\]: i dont know either
Q161 [13k?\]: go4go is really cool looking though, thx
norg [3k\]: moyo v moyo
GeorgeW [-\]: Okay where unfortunately for you there are no places for free commentary in English
Q161 [13k?\]: finally found a game ive been looking for for a while
GeorgeW [-\]: Though you can find samples in assorted sites
lonsan [1k\]: thanks a lot, i appreciate it!
Q161 [13k?\]: me too
GeorgeW [-\]: No problem, glad to be of help
bobstep [2k?\]: George, what is a good site in Chinese?
Q161 [13k?\]: too bad cant search by position
Armada [1d\]: eric lui = pianist ?
Armada [1d\]: and andy liu = big bad wolf?
GeorgeW [-\]: http://weiqi.sports.tom.com/
bobstep [2k?\]: thx
GeorgeW [-\]: Welcome
USGO2 [-\]: That's correct Armada
USGO2 [-\]: Andy is thus far undefeated in both the US Open and the North American Ing Masters.
USGO2 [-\]: Eric is 2-1 in each, having lost to Myung-Wan Kim in round 3 of the US Open, and Andy in round 2 of the North American Ing Masters.
Vibration [7k\]: who is bbw ?
norg [3k\]: Andy
Vibration [7k\]: oh
norg [3k\]: Eric is taking his time...
USGO2 [-\]: Eric grabs a handful of stones and then puts them back in the bowl.
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;B[eo]
;W[dn]
;B[fq]
;W[fr]
;B[er]
;W[gq]C[Q161 [13k?\]: lewl
jSd [8k\]: whereis the stream?
USGO2 [-\]: Andy finishes one glass of water and moves on to a second.
USGO2 [-\]: The video stream is for board 1, and can be found at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
norg [3k\]: Andy didn't extend from the crosscut! :o
IamLucifer [1d\]: board 1 is less interesting : p
IamLucifer [1d\]: andy won 3 games ?
USGO2 [-\]: Eric has used just under 28 minutes of his 2 hours of main time.  Andy still has 1 hour and 55 minutes remaining.
Q161 [13k?\]: bbw always plays fast
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;B[dq]
;W[fp]
;B[ep]
;W[fq]
;B[dp]
;W[co]
;B[cq]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yes, Andy has won all 3 of his games so far in the US Open
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;W[dr]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: thx
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;B[cr]
;W[es]C[Armada [1d\]: black stones seems heavy
Yippie [2d\]: he's got half an eye... and two strong w positions around him
magners [2k\]: any way to sacrifice them?
Yippie [2d\]: no
Armada [1d\]: noway
Yippie [2d\]: or well
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;B[en]
;W[em]C[Arhiman [2k\]: black in bad position ?
Armada [1d\]: very bad
Armada [1d\]: bad white leave some aji at n4
bobstep [2k?\]: w will profit from this weak group
freddygo [5k\]: why is b playing like this when he knows andy is good at attacking
Yippie [2d\]: becasue he thinks it is fun?
lokki [3d\]: why not
Vibration [7k\]: why not
Q161 [13k?\]: wow looks terrible for b
cloud [2d\]: this doesn't look fun for b
Vibration [7k\]: ^^
Q161 [13k?\]: w make a million bucks chasing him
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;B[fm]
;W[el]C[Arhiman [2k\]: black can't leave these stones as aji ?
Armada [1d\]: they both are friends, right?
Kirigo: eric is bigdadwolf on kgs?
Q161 [13k?\]: andy is
bobstep [2k?\]: yes
bobstep [2k?\]: oops, andy
Arhiman [2k\]: andy is bbw, eric is pianist
Kirigo: thx
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;B[gn]
;W[hm]C[norg [3k\]: That move is in Attack and Defense :)
freddygo [5k\]: its a bunch of useless stones :P
freddygo [5k\]: e5
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;B[fl]C[bobstep [2k?\]: eric wishes he could start over I bet
lokki [3d\]: its not too bad for b yet
Ceiter [1k\]: I don't see the stones as useless. Remember that W was very strong in the area to begin with, and hasn't played a single stone up top yet.
Q161 [13k?\]: yeah but he helped solidfy ws left side
Q161 [13k?\]: for pretty much nothing in return
lokki [3d\]: left side is still open
freddygo [5k\]: black reduced more than helped with white's sides though...
lokki [3d\]: b can throw stone at b10 and w lose most of left side
Ceiter [1k\]: The idea when invading a corner that's already so strong is not to make a base, but to reduce. As long as B lives, he's reduced a lot.
KlerChazal [-\]: were can we find the scores of this tournament ? can't find it on the website
norg [3k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
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;W[hk]C[KlerChazal [-\]: thcx
Vibration [7k\]: aie aie
Ceiter [1k\]: I think the question is, how much center influence will W gain from chasing?
USGO2 [-\]: Andy leaves to use the restroom while Eric thinks.
Q161 [13k?\]: hmph. i cant see how this isnt bad for b
SColbert [3d\]: e9 d9 d7 d8 c7 c6 b7 b6 b4 
norg [3k\]: Imagine if w had territory instead of b having stones there :)
Ceiter [1k\]: I don't think B is thrilled, either. But I don't think it's outrageously bad.
globax [4d\]: e9-c8?
SColbert [3d\]: b can make sente eye
USGO2 [-\]: Andy returns, but sneaks a peek at board 1 before retaking his seat.
SColbert [3d\]: e9 c8 then b getting out easier
norg [3k\]: Why not e9 d9?
SColbert [3d\]: see my sequence above
SColbert [3d\]: in fact after b4 b can live 
SColbert [3d\]: so
SColbert [3d\]: e9 d9 d7 d8 c7 b7 
USGO2 [-\]: Andy gets up again for more water.
Timeless [18k\]: that is bad for black isn't it Colbert
USGO2 [-\]: This time he takes a look at board 9 on the way back.
lonsan [1k\]: gl finding something good for b in this local situation
Timeless [18k\]: e9 d9 d7 d8 c7 c6 b7 b6 b4 b8 
Timeless [18k\]: wouldn't white capture black there
lordofbird: b just need to save c3, not kill w
jm1107 [3k\]: how much time remaining?
Timeless [18k\]: I see...didn't think of it that way
Timeless [18k\]: thanks for telling me :D
USGO2 [-\]: Eric has 1 hour 12 minutes remaining.  Andy has 1 hour 51 minutes left.
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;B[dm]C[DrakeBell [5d\]: USGO is this tourny send the winner to the world ama go tourny?
Timeless [18k\]: c7 would be better for white there right prevents black from helping in the corner...am I wrong?
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;W[cm]C[Timeless [18k\]: guess I'm right :D
Timeless [18k\]: F5 creates an eye for black right?
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu Jiang has stopped by to watch the game.
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;B[dl]
;W[ek]
;B[cl]C[Timeless [18k\]: with G5 and G7 being miai 
wornof [1d\]: Timeless: It does not
wornof [1d\]: G5 and G7 are miai not to make it, but to remove it
pmrktp: w trying to kill?
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;W[bl]C[Timeless [18k\]: oh 
Timeless [18k\]: ok
USGO2 [-\]: The winner is not sent to the World Amateur Go Tournament, but plays can earn points toward their selection to go in this tournament.
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;B[bm]
;W[cn]C[USGO3 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/WAGC/
Timeless [18k\]: oh yeah if white can take out G7 those remove the eye of course 
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;B[bk]C[norg [3k\]: W must have a clever plan...
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;W[al]C[lamentos: is this a wrong move
norg [3k\]: BBW doesn't play wrong moves
norg [3k\]: He is the next Jie Li! :D
Arhiman [2k\]: black sacrify c8 to settle in the corner ?
USGO3 [-\]: WAGC qualifying points are 5 years cumulative.
USGO2 [-\]: Thanks USGO3 :)
pmrktp: whole f17 is dead i think
USGO3 [-\]: Welcome.
pmrktp: *f7
lokki [3d\]: no
lokki [3d\]: b can gain eye by sacrifice c8 i think
Armada [1d\]: i think it gonna be a ko
USGO2 [-\]: Andy tisks to himself and shakes his head
lokki [3d\]: hmm
norg [3k\]: Silly Andy! Thinks andy.
Timeless [18k\]: Lui vs Liu 
Timeless [18k\]: epic battle 
USGO2 [-\]: He then begins to chew some ice cubes from the refreshment table.
Q161 [13k?\]: :P
Armada [1d\]: lol
norg [3k\]: I must admit, I am struggling to see how w isn't dead.
norg [3k\]: Though in hindsight, that has often been the case for me in Andy's games...
Yippie [2d\]: give your sequence and I'll tell you
Timeless [18k\]: if black kills white kills entire black
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;B[ck]
;W[bn]C[lokki [3d\]: this will be ko ?
Timeless [18k\]: yeah
Timeless [18k\]: .....why ko
norg [3k\]: I might go back and have a look at this one later
Flesk [1k\]: black had died
Timeless [18k\]: b4 
Timeless [18k\]: is that a good move??
Timeless [18k\]: attack white there?
Flesk [1k\]: C9 dies then
monk316 [1k\]: well, w has to play b3. that give b a move to try and escape
Timeless [18k\]: b4 b11 right?
Timeless [18k\]: or how would white try to kill b9
monk316 [1k\]: b will move b10 out i think
USGO2 [-\]: Andy's face is quite animated as he reads out continuations.
takamifan [4k\]: lol
monk316 [1k\]: like twitching?
takamifan [4k\]: i guess he doesn't have a good poker face
Flesk [1k\]: if b moves B10 out I think corner is very dead
monkeyDgo [5k\]: why would you need a poker face for go?
holycarp [-\]: there is streaming?
USGO2 [-\]: Like raising eyebrows in noticing something interesting.
raifu [3k\]: is there stream of board 1?
takamifan [4k\]: i don't know, but he probably shouldn't play poker
USGO2 [-\]: Streaming is for board 1, and can be found at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
raifu [3k\]: thanks!
USGO2 [-\]: Eric presents a quiet calm as he reads.
aga2k [4k\]: in go people will sometimes tenuki if you pretend to concentrate on a different area of the board
evanj [2d\]: haha
ethanb [1k\]: it's a little different at the dan level :)
pmrktp: black c11 now
evanj [2d\]: that's a good kyu trick :)
aga2k [4k\]: no seriously
pmrktp: if w b3 then b g9 escapes
lokki [3d\]: i dont think it work at dan level ^^
evanj [2d\]: no, i know, i've seen it
USGO2 [-\]: Eric gets up, removes his jacket, and leaves the room.  Andy takes the opportunity to get up and take a look at board 3.
aga2k [4k\]: it does
Q161 [13k?\]: heh
Armada [1d\]: b4
raifu [3k\]: is andy in a beige striped shirt
macgill [2k\]: b is in big touble
USGO2 [-\]: both players have stepped away
pmrktp: i prefer live speaker rahter than a live stream :)
USGO2 [-\]: Eric returns from using the restroom and puts his jacket back on as he retakes his seat.
USGO2 [-\]: Now both players have returned.
Q161 [13k?\]: same lol
VlNCENT [5d\]: i think eric died
VlNCENT [5d\]: or black died here
pmrktp: why? black c11 w b3 then b g9 escapes? no vincent?
norg [3k\]: How are the players doing for time?
freddygo [5k\]: whats black taking so long?
pmrktp: takemiya masaki !
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;B[ci]
;W[bq]C[pipiru [1k\]: where?
USGO2 [-\]: Eric has 47 minutes remaining on his clock.  Andy has 1 hour 48 minutes.
Q161 [13k?\]: O_o
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;B[fk]C[norg [3k\]: e9 isn't looking entirely healthy any more...
Arhiman [2k\]: white has a big center moyo...
norg [3k\]: b has a big top side and corners moyo
Q161 [13k?\]: f10 
Arhiman [2k\]: yes, and p4 weakness
norg [3k\]: To be honest, I think I prefer Eric in this game...
Arhiman [2k\]: you should wait for f9 living  healthly before saying that
craig [4k\]: I think f9 is already out
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;W[fj]
;B[gj]C[craig [4k\]: or, w dies trying to cut
norg [3k\]: To me, e9 looks worse off than f9
barakeel [1d\]: could cut and make a big ko
barakeel [1d\]: or not
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;W[fi]
;B[gk]
;W[gh]
;B[ch]
;W[ih]
;B[br]
;W[bp]C[iPwnNoobs [1k\]: liu beat lui in the naim already didn't he?
ExplO [2d\]: yes he did
evanj [2d\]: yes
USGO2 [-\]: You can find the game record for that game at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/results/312-1012-1042
A1R [8k\]: is the black grp dead?
A1R [8k\]: already
Vibration [7k\]: not yet
USGO2 [-\]: Eric reaches toward the board, hesitates, then pulls back.
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: not yet
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;B[gi]C[iPwnNoobs [1k\]: he could get ko easily
Q161 [13k?\]: f12 
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: and probably escape without it
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;W[fg]C[Vibration [7k\]: w is like a rock
Vibration [7k\]: b need to do like water...
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;B[ik]
;W[hl]
;B[ii]C[norg [3k\]: :o!
norg [3k\]: Don't you know analogies cause KGS to EXPLODE?!
Vibration [7k\]: lol
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;W[jh]
;B[ji]
;W[ki]
;B[kk]C[Russianlll [4k\]: can someone let me know did cornel win in his match today?
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;W[jm]C[ExplO [2d\]: he lost
Russianlll [4k\]: ic.. thanks
USGO2 [-\]: A number of players have finished their games already and have joined us here in the strong players' rooms to watch.
norg [3k\]: If you're strong, you get your own room?! :D
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;B[ll]C[USGO2 [-\]: There are 2 strong player rooms, where the top boards are held.
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;W[kj]C[USGO2 [-\]: There are 12 boards in this room and 16 more in the adjacent room.
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;B[jj]
;W[jl]
;B[jk]C[patrickn [5k\]: black going to needsome magic 
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;W[mj]C[iPwnNoobs [1k\]: white's still got bad aji
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: so this group can still fight
norg [3k\]: Looks to me that if b can make this live, he is well ahead
lamentos: w look good
quince [3k?\]: b  has 2 half eyes
USGO2 [-\]: Both players are leaning in close now, their heads only inches apart.
patrickn [5k\]: heh
oliolioli [6k\]: brutal game...
craig [4k\]: i guess with h10 b can ask w the question, are you trying to kill?
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: hah the answer is yes
patrickn [5k\]: andy is a killer :P
quince [3k?\]: h10 would not like h12
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: h12 first is interesting though
norg [3k\]: My suspicion is that Eric is headed for Byo Yomi :P
A1R [8k\]: time?
USGO2 [-\]: Eric has 28 minutes of main time remaining.
patrickn [5k\]: heh andy probably used like 15 minutes 
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;B[nl]C[norg [3k\]: Something like o5 is beginning to look more likely
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;W[pl]C[patrickn [5k\]: such a fast response :P
USGO2 [-\]: Andy has 1 hour 35 minutes remaining on his clock.
csgo [?\]: h10 for first eye?
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: i hope bbw kills :)
A1R [8k\]: ok thx
norg [3k\]: n6 - because shape is more important than life
norg [3k\]: Can't w h10 in sente?
shai [1d\]: o5 -- its time to make that atari
norg [3k\]: Seems like the sensible thing to do if he can...
Q161 [13k?\]: p4
Q161 [13k?\]: maybe
quince [3k?\]: h10 not sente for w
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;B[pm]C[quince [3k?\]: b threatens  with h11
Q161 [13k?\]: if b lives is it over for w?
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;W[qm]
;B[ol]
;W[pk]
;B[op]C[shai [1d\]: wow
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;W[no]
;B[oo]
;W[on]C[shai [1d\]: I love being completely wrong...
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;B[nn]
;W[mo]
;B[pn]
;W[po]
;B[om]
;W[oq]C[Q161 [13k?\]: q6 doesnt connecgt
norg [3k\]: Looking bad for w
USGO2 [-\]: Eric hesitates
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;B[on]
;W[pq]C[patrickn [5k\]: hmmm
patrickn [5k\]: n7
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;B[or]
;W[rp]C[csgo [?\]: s3
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;B[rq]
;W[qp]C[oliolioli [6k\]: surely b is alive now
norg [3k\]: b n6 m5 h10 ?
csgo [?\]: corner still in danger
Q161 [13k?\]: b lookin very alive
quince [3k?\]: now b has 3 half eyes!
csgo [?\]: w has s2
Q161 [13k?\]: much to my chagrin
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;B[mn]
;W[lo]C[USGO2 [-\]: A number of onlookers are watching now. 6 of them, including Yongfei Ge, have joined us.
quince [3k?\]: b lives
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;B[sp]C[csgo [?\]: h12
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;W[pb]C[iPwnNoobs [1k\]: i was thinking q17 instead
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: :(
IamLucifer [1d\]: and this is why you re 1 kyu noob : p
Flesk [1k\]: if white pushes H10 and then A2? :O
patrickn [5k\]: yeah h10 a2
iPwnNoobs [1k\]: h10 a2 h11 ?
patrickn [5k\]: no i mean, w should h10 then b h11 
patrickn [5k\]: then w a2
USGO2 [-\]: Andy gets up and leaves the room.
patrickn [5k\]: so dramatic
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;B[pc]C[Vibration [7k\]: what about h10h11a2 ???
derp [1k\]: after h11, b h12 and b can cut, doesn't look good for w
Vibration [7k\]: oh i see
norg [3k\]: It'd make a nice desperate last ditch attempt, though :)
derp [1k\]: w is too thin, but maybe later
USGO2 [-\]: Eric gets up and looks on at board 1 briefly, before making rounds at the other boards in the room.
patrickn [5k\]: ahh yes the cut will allow b to either kill l10 or k12, or make another eye at n8 or something
USGO2 [-\]: Andy just walked back into the room, and looks at board 1
patrickn [5k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: He retakes his seat and immediately plays
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;W[ob]
;B[qb]
;W[lc]C[norg [3k\]: Whenever I've been in a tournament, the tendency has been to finish your game before watching those of other players.
norg [3k\]: Obviously this isn't the high dan fashion :P
]
;B[gd]
;W[kh]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: I think my eyes are having some problem, how's the dragon alive?
Over9k [2k\]: i remember zhaonian once told me he walked around for an hour before playing his first move once
]
;B[eh]C[Q161 [13k?\]: lol
]
;W[fh]C[norg [3k\]: It has half eyes at a1, j10 and n7 
norg [3k\]: Actually, n7 is a whole eye
USGO2 [-\]: Players are permitted to use their time however they feel is best for them.
robertm [1d\]: J10 not an eye, can be removed in sente
norg [3k\]: if b j10 now, he is alive
patrickn [5k\]: b has to a2 or something
robertm [1d\]: yes, that is true
]
;B[ro]
;W[qo]C[Suicide [-\]: If b j10 he is not alive. H10, however...
]
;B[mk]C[Yasguri [-\]: White is BBW ? 
Q161 [13k?\]: yes
Over9k [2k\]: yes
Yasguri [-\]: ok thx :)
]
;W[qh]C[patrickn [5k\]: w failed to slay the dragon :)
]
;B[qg]C[maldito [4k\]: wait what? white is big bad wolf
patrickn [5k\]: yeah
patrickn [5k\]: andy liu = bbw
Vibration [7k\]: r13 good ???
csgo [?\]: b n9 seems to give w a slim chance, w can h10, n7
]
;W[rh]C[lokki [3d\]: dont n7 make b eyeless ?
norg [3k\]: then b a2
patrickn [5k\]: makes him have 1 eye at n7
]
;B[mb]
;W[rb]
;B[qa]C[csgo [?\]: if w h10, bh11, wn7, ba2, wm7
]
;W[lb]C[patrickn [5k\]: s17
csgo [?\]: it becomes too complicated for me
]
;B[nc]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: looks like big  lost for w
]
;W[rd]
;B[rc]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[rf]
;B[rg]
;W[sg]
;B[sd]
;W[nd]
;B[nb]C[patrickn [5k\]: t14
patrickn [5k\]: is probabbly a terrible move :)
]
;W[db]C[patrickn [5k\]: i predict multiple kos in the immediate future
]
;B[cc]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: lol, 5 kyu multiple kos
Q161 [13k?\]: is it over for w?
derp [1k\]: I don't see anything for b with the h10 sequence, but lots of variations
]
;W[fo]
;B[fn]C[derp [1k\]: he can try to escape with o10, but I couldn't find a way that worked
patrickn [5k\]: h10 h11 n7 m7 a2  you meanas the sequence?
derp [1k\]: yeah
norg [3k\]: h10 h11 n7 ?
norg [3k\]: If I were w, I'd have played h10 by now just to see what happened, because it's sente :P
patrickn [5k\]: n7 probably not required
]
;W[hj]
;B[hi]C[patrickn [5k\]: lol
]
;W[mm]C[patrickn [5k\]: hahah
Q161 [13k?\]: GO BBW!!!
norg [3k\]: :D :D :D
norg [3k\]: :D
Q161 [13k?\]: KILL
norg [3k\]: b j5 :P
derp [1k\]: if w a2 instead of n7, then b n7 and has more opportunity for a second eye, I think
patrickn [5k\]: yeah i think n7 means w has to play o9
]
;B[ln]C[USGO2 [-\]: Eric accidentally dropped this stone amid the other stones, then fixed them.
Q161 [13k?\]: keke
]
;W[km]C[derp [1k\]: he's nervous :)
evanj [2d\]: haha
norg [3k\]: I'd be nervous
lokki [3d\]: b will die
freddygo [5k\]: theres no way black can live now...
patrickn [5k\]: b might be able to wiggle out around n10
Q161 [13k?\]: maybe he can escape from the o10 area
lokki [3d\]: weird tat 7 dans dont see it before ^^
patrickn [5k\]: who knows
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei Ge is studying the game intently.
]
;B[lm]
;W[ar]C[freddygo [5k\]: why didnt black ignore white's moves on the top to save himself?
norg [3k\]: o10 ?
bobstep [2k?\]: how old is andy?
patrickn [5k\]: o10 only move?
Q161 [13k?\]: think so
patrickn [5k\]: maybe m10
patrickn [5k\]: nm m10 failure
csgo [?\]: b n9 was taking chance long ago
]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]C[Vibration [7k\]: ko
norg [3k\]: Eric is weeping with pain
Q161 [13k?\]: lewl
patrickn [5k\]: oh, upper moves werefor ko?
Q161 [13k?\]: ohhhhh
Q161 [13k?\]: that would make sense of everything
Vibration [7k\]: Go BBW youre the best !!!
]
;B[ko]
;W[lp]C[norg [3k\]: BBW deserves his own theme tune
Q161 [13k?\]: or maybe he was waiting for b's time to go to byo yomi
patrickn [5k\]: probably both
patrickn [5k\]: :P
USGO2 [-\]: Eric does have only 3 minutes left of main time.
patrickn [5k\]: k56
patrickn [5k\]: k5?
Q161 [13k?\]: k5 j6 
norg [3k\]: I think if I were either player, I'd just have an emotional breakdown :P
Vibration [7k\]: b will resign soon
patrickn [5k\]: i dont think hes going to
patrickn [5k\]: its going to be a ko
Q161 [13k?\]: o woops
]
;B[jo]C[derp [1k\]: hmm, maybe something here, with k5
]
;W[io]
;B[ip]
;W[kn]C[Q161 [13k?\]: j5
patrickn [5k\]: wow l5 brave
norg [3k\]: Crosscut is scary :(
]
;B[ho]C[raifu [3k\]: fast
]
;W[in]C[lonsan [1k\]: big death
USGO2 [-\]: Andy's responses are being played instantly.
lonsan [1k\]: haha
lonsan [1k\]: i wish we had a feed
norg [3k\]: Big death for who? ;)
patrickn [5k\]: either b or w :P
raifu [3k\]: lol
Q161 [13k?\]: bbw!
norg [3k\]: Andy reads freakishly fast
]
;B[hq]C[lonsan [1k\]: b will die...seems impossible for w to die
patrickn [5k\]: w in trouble here tho
]
;W[hr]C[evanj [2d\]: it's possible that neither will die
USGO2 [-\]: Andy shakes his head and tisks to himself
]
;B[jq]
;W[kp]
;B[ir]C[norg [3k\]: = ko
Q161 [13k?\]: :(
patrickn [5k\]: yeah
patrickn [5k\]: tisk = ko
patrickn [5k\]: lol
evanj [2d\]: ko for the game?
csgo [?\]: l2 no ko
norg [3k\]: l2 h1 
USGO2 [-\]: He's hesitating with his hand over the board holding a stone
]
;W[hs]
;B[kr]C[evanj [2d\]: wish we had video of this
norg [3k\]: :o
evanj [2d\]: too bad
Arhiman [2k\]: epic fight
Q161 [13k?\]: g5 starts ko
bruce0421: live
csgo [?\]: yeah, misread
raifu [3k\]: will he be on first board for this afternoon?
]
;W[ls]C[csgo [?\]: l1
lonsan [1k\]: yes, this doesn't seem to work?
]
;B[ks]
;W[lr]C[evanj [2d\]: for who?
lonsan [1k\]: for killing :)
]
;B[is]
;W[hp]C[evanj [2d\]: ko
]
;B[gp]
;W[go]C[norg [3k\]: g5
]
;B[hn]
;W[hp]C[lonsan [1k\]: ah right
Q161 [13k?\]: ah
norg [3k\]: :D :D :D
norg [3k\]: :D
evanj [2d\]: here we go
raifu [3k\]: wow this is epic
csgo [?\]: e11
evanj [2d\]: b has an awful lot of local threats though
Q161 [13k?\]: what are w's threats tho
Arhiman [2k\]: r8
]
;B[hh]
;W[hg]
;B[gp]C[norg [3k\]: This is possibly the most epic game I have seen this congress
evanj [2d\]: don't see how w can win this ko
lokki [3d\]: b has many local threats
norg [3k\]: w is BBW ;)
raifu [3k\]: and the runner-ups are andy's other games
Varadero [6k\]: r2
Q161 [13k?\]: b infinite local threats
Vibration [7k\]: BBW gogogogogogogoggoogogogo
Arhiman [2k\]: b too much local threat
evanj [2d\]: r2?
]
;W[qs]C[evanj [2d\]: yeah, r1 better
lonsan [1k\]: yes, kill the bottom for threats, should be enough
evanj [2d\]: not enough
evanj [2d\]: but something
norg [3k\]: Ignore?
Q161 [13k?\]: he probably wants to wait
]
;B[qr]C[Q161 [13k?\]: to ignore smaller ones
lonsan [1k\]: enough to win
]
;W[hp]C[Youssev [5d\]: ignore and then live :)
patrickn [5k\]: p10
]
;B[gf]
;W[gg]C[lokki [3d\]: g14 is nice threat
]
;B[gp]C[USGO2 [-\]: Eric has 4 byo yomi periods left
norg [3k\]: I can see at least 3 local threats for b
norg [3k\]: 4
Youssev [5d\]: more
Youssev [5d\]: R8 threats also
norg [3k\]: 5
patrickn [5k\]: p10 is a great threat
]
;W[rs]C[patrickn [5k\]: since he basically escapes with it
R3P [9k\]: 5-6 threats for black
Q161 [13k?\]: i think 6 or more
evanj [2d\]: b's threats have been independently helpful
]
;B[ns]
;W[hp]C[norg [3k\]: Threats at p10 r8 e11 j8 j13 
norg [3k\]: for b
lonsan [1k\]: e10 e9 etc
lonsan [1k\]: billions of threats
csgo [?\]: e11
evanj [2d\]: b has too many
]
;B[mi]
;W[lj]C[Over9k [2k\]: bad threat
Over9k [2k\]: gave white one as well
]
;B[gp]C[evanj [2d\]: yup, gives white another one
]
;W[sq]C[monk316 [1k\]: wow, seems w is not willing to give up this kill
Youssev [5d\]: that gives one to white but more than one to b
lonsan [1k\]: can you blame him?
patrickn [5k\]: well its basically for the game
]
;B[sr]
;W[hp]C[Q161 [13k?\]: q11
]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[gp]C[Youssev [5d\]: lot of threast here
norg [3k\]: If I were andy, I'd go get some water now, just to freak eric out
]
;W[ec]C[egergre: that's bbw right?
Vibration [7k\]: take
Arhiman [2k\]: white is bbw
lonsan [1k\]: andy should not give eric more time to think now
Youssev [5d\]: don't ignore
evanj [2d\]: don't have to ignore
egergre: eric also on kgs?
]
;B[fb]
;W[hp]C[norg [3k\]: As pianist
egergre: tx
KlerChazal [-\]: he is like pianist or theone
norg [3k\]: He's not been on for a long time, though
Arhiman [2k\]: is j14 a threat ??
lonsan [1k\]: 1min byo yomi periods?
]
;B[oi]C[patrickn [5k\]: p9
]
;W[nh]C[raifu [3k\]: theone is a 7k
]
;B[gp]C[USGO2 [-\]: 30 second byo yomi
]
;W[eb]C[lonsan [1k\]: oh awesome
Arhiman [2k\]: 30 seconds ???
evanj [2d\]: too fast for eric
Arhiman [2k\]: that's so short
lonsan [1k\]: yes i think so too evan
]
;B[ee]
;W[hp]C[lonsan [1k\]: he will answer anything andy plays i bet :)
]
;B[rm]
;W[qk]
;B[gp]C[Reiter101 [-\]: m9 
lonsan [1k\]: hmm...wasn't there a way to play with more threats there for b?
lonsan [1k\]: could get r9 as well at least?
patrickn [5k\]: m9
bobstep [2k?\]: m14 local threat for w
monk316 [1k\]: b has at least 6 more threats
KlerChazal [-\]: c10 ?
bobstep [2k?\]: oops m9
monk316 [1k\]: would j14 be a threat?
]
;W[ed]C[Hideto [3k\]: q2 ?
egergre: r17?
evanj [2d\]: q1 is gote seki, not a threat
]
;B[fe]
;W[hp]C[patrickn [5k\]: p10
patrickn [5k\]: or s6
Over9k [2k\]: this is intense
evanj [2d\]: s6 first
]
;B[if]C[patrickn [5k\]: s6 better yeah
]
;W[ig]
;B[gp]C[evanj [2d\]: ok, that's better still :)
]
;W[dd]C[Reiter101 [-\]: m9 
Godaisuki [1k\]: white trying to get B to finish all useful threats before playing the big one?
Reiter101 [-\]: big threat
Reiter101 [-\]: m9 
]
;B[cd]C[Reiter101 [-\]: 2 threats there...
]
;W[hp]
;B[rn]C[patrickn [5k\]: actually p10 not really a threat
]
;W[ql]
;B[gp]
;W[gc]C[patrickn [5k\]: oh yes it is
patrickn [5k\]: nm
norg [3k\]: Is eric in byo yomi now?
Vibration [7k\]: p10 why not a threat?
Vibration [7k\]: making one eye?
Q161 [13k?\]: jeez seems small threat for w..
lonsan [1k\]: p10 not a threat
]
;B[fc]C[kash [5d\]: ignore and win?
]
;W[hp]C[Arhiman [2k\]: e10
adhitthana [1d\]: many threats for w
]
;B[oj]C[patrickn [5k\]: p9
monk316 [1k\]: b needs to think hard about a ko threat he can ignore
R3P [9k\]: a9 better?
evanj [2d\]: p10 is absolutely a threat
lonsan [1k\]: hmm i guess i am wrong...not sure
patrickn [5k\]: its a threat but only one threat
]
;W[ok]C[lonsan [1k\]: no, it is a few if it is one
]
;B[nk]C[Over9k [2k\]: ooo
patrickn [5k\]: oh now its a threat again
Vibration [7k\]: ???
patrickn [5k\]: lol
Over9k [2k\]: that was a bad threat
evanj [2d\]: p12
]
;W[pf]C[lonsan [1k\]: must answer
Over9k [2k\]: o9 m9 makes fake eye for black
lonsan [1k\]: nice
Q161 [13k?\]: wow...
]
;B[gp]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: w lost:/
]
;W[fd]C[evanj [2d\]: gotta keep thinking about life after ko as much as possible
evanj [2d\]: q14 is savvy
Arhiman [2k\]: ignore
monk316 [1k\]: why did b get greedy there?
evanj [2d\]: not greedy, solid
]
;B[gb]
;W[hp]C[Reiter101 [-\]: solid?
freddygo [5k\]: why q14
Q161 [13k?\]: this game is giving me a heart attack
Reiter101 [-\]: letting e17 live before was probably best
evanj [2d\]: q14 prevents b from connecting out
]
;B[oh]C[monk316 [1k\]: should have saved o9 for ko threat
]
;W[og]C[evanj [2d\]: with maximum profit
]
;B[gp]
;W[hc]C[play234 [-\]: chaos
lonsan [1k\]: can we get a time update?
patrickn [5k\]: this game is gut wrenching
Vibration [7k\]: yeah game is chaos
]
;B[hb]
;W[hp]C[KlerChazal [-\]: w will get something huge out of it no matter what
raifu [3k\]: how do they eat lunch after somethin like this
Q161 [13k?\]: lol no idea
]
;B[ng]C[adhitthana [1d\]: o13
]
;W[mh]
;B[gp]
;W[hd]C[evanj [2d\]: eric and myung-wan kim had lunch in the middle of their game on tuesday
Q161 [13k?\]: ridiculous.
]
;B[ge]
;W[hp]C[XSpanier [1k\]: oh pianist playing
evanj [2d\]: i think that after 12 PM (i.e. now) they can request an hour for lunch break and seal a move
]
;B[mg]
;W[lh]C[lonsan [1k\]: neither player will want to seal now i think
]
;B[gp]C[A1R [8k\]: how late is it in washington d.c now?
Q161 [13k?\]: m9
evanj [2d\]: j18?
evanj [2d\]: 12:02 PM
Q161 [13k?\]: lets do this
raifu [3k\]: 12pm
Reiter101 [-\]: m9 
Q161 [13k?\]: gogo m9
A1R [8k\]: ah ok thx
Q161 [13k?\]: no more joking around
Youssev [5d\]: d15 ?
adhitthana [1d\]: d15
freddygo [5k\]: oh ya, g1 is also a threat for black
lonsan [1k\]: yes i think d15 as well
lokki [3d\]: k14 is threat ?
Vibration [7k\]: for w?
bruce0421: m9
lokki [3d\]: for b
Q161 [13k?\]: g1 threat??
Segungo [-\]: g1 isn't a treat
Godaisuki [1k\]: g1 is not a threat because white take J3
freddygo [5k\]: wait no
MChow [6k\]: g1 not threat
freddygo [5k\]: ya, sorry about that
]
;W[cb]C[csgo [?\]: w no good, b has tons of ko threat
bruce0421: ignore
lonsan [1k\]: ignore?
Q161 [13k?\]: this def ignore..
evanj [2d\]: is life here enough for w??
Arhiman [2k\]: ignore !
evanj [2d\]: why not j18?
USGO2 [-\]: Andy gets up and leaves the room.
lonsan [1k\]: haha
Q161 [13k?\]: lolol
]
;B[bb]C[Over9k [2k\]: lolol
Soromon [1d\]: black still has p14 and j8
patrickn [5k\]: wow
Godaisuki [1k\]: anticlimactic....
lokki [3d\]: good
Over9k [2k\]: scare tactic
Youssev [5d\]: nice threat but B d15
Q161 [13k?\]: woah.
monk316 [1k\]: q11 is a threat, right?
lonsan [1k\]: he expects eric to ignore
Vibration [7k\]: andy is feeling good the game for sure
Youssev [5d\]: B d15 was more solid
USGO2 [-\]: He has 1 hour and 15 minutes on his clock, Eric has 4 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi still.
evanj [2d\]: poor eric
Arhiman [2k\]: eric has to count threats now, using andy's time !
Vibration [7k\]: wow
evanj [2d\]: he played so fast when he was a kid, now he plays so slow
Vibration [7k\]: 1.15 is a lot !!!
jotajota [4k\]: take ko
Q161 [13k?\]: M NINE 
lokki [3d\]: think k14 is good threat ?
lokki [3d\]: or has w more libs
Vibration [7k\]: count
freddygo [5k\]: i dont understand b at all, i would have h4 long time ago
kash [5d\]: w has more
adhitthana [1d\]: r11 seems to be a threat for b too
Vibration [7k\]: j8 threath ?
MChow [6k\]: j8 ggood threat
Over9k [2k\]: j8 is still there
SFPD: e11 p14 j8 even a9 for B
Over9k [2k\]: lol
Godaisuki [1k\]: the battle is all over the board
Q161 [13k?\]: b trying to burn out w ko threats so he doesnt lose so much when he takes
csgo [?\]: w l12 dragon has only one eye
Youssev [5d\]: seemshard for w though
Vibration [7k\]: this kois doing all the game
shoutan [?\]: did they go to lunch ?
Over9k [2k\]: a9 looks ok too
Meepy [-\]: b17 next threat?  then d15
USGO2 [-\]: Andy presumably went to use the restroom.
USGO2 [-\]: He's back now
]
;W[hp]C[monk316 [1k\]: i count absolutely 6 more threats for b
cheddot [-\]: shoutan, I've never seen championship players go to lunch during their game...
csgo [?\]: e11
nuBO [2k\]: e10 d9 a9 a6 p14 threats for b
nuBO [2k\]: j8 
Youssev [5d\]: W has only 8 external liberties n not so much...
]
;B[of]
;W[pg]C[Reiter101 [-\]: mistake
monk316 [1k\]: add 2 for q11
evanj [2d\]: are you kidding, cheddot?
Reiter101 [-\]: b should have q13 
Reiter101 [-\]: 1 more threat
IamLucifer [1d\]: w have too many ko threats
Youssev [5d\]: may end in seki
shoutan [?\]: sometimes, it surely take longer to finish
lonsan [1k\]: evan: he means without sealing
evanj [2d\]: oh
]
;B[gp]C[lonsan [1k\]: i hope
shoutan [?\]: especially, I think Eric should take a break
Reiter101 [-\]: Black should have done q13 he gets another threat that way
shoutan [?\]: given he only has 30 sec byoyomi
Youssev [5d\]: d15 now
USGO2 [-\]: Andy forgot to hit his clock, Eric reminded him after 10 seconds or so.
patrickn [5k\]: lo
Godaisuki [1k\]: .....
Arhiman [2k\]: nice Eric !
shoutan [?\]: good manner
lonsan [1k\]: how is the ettiquette during tournaments? if eric asked to seal would it be rude for andy to say no?
lonsan [1k\]: yes, good of eric
]
;W[bc]C[evanj [2d\]: i'm not sure he's allowed to say no
bobstep [2k?\]: of course time not a factor for w
adhitthana [1d\]: now r17 a threat for w
ooOoo [1d\]: no way to answer that
lonsan [1k\]: maybe andy left the clock unhit to give eric thinking time :)
Q161 [13k?\]: true
]
;B[bd]C[adhitthana [1d\]: t17 better of course
]
;W[hp]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: lol at lonsan
Arhiman [2k\]: bbw is used to play on KGS, not used to hit a clock ^^
lonsan [1k\]: i thought they only sealed if both players agreed
monk316 [1k\]: i think q11 gives him 2 threats
]
;B[il]
;W[im]
;B[gp]C[Q161 [13k?\]: m...9...
KlerChazal [-\]: desperate threat.
]
;W[ac]C[Q161 [13k?\]: m9 before he fills!
Godaisuki [1k\]: now living in the corner is big enough
adhitthana [1d\]: w gonna win this
shoutan [?\]: if eric can have 1 hr break
]
;B[ad]C[shoutan [?\]: he could think of nicer plan
]
;W[hp]C[shoutan [?\]: ：）
lonsan [1k\]: not much to plan
lonsan [1k\]: besides "win ko"
monk316 [1k\]: oh, r11 give 3 threats
Q161 [13k?\]: lol
Arhiman [2k\]: e10 !
Reiter101 [-\]: e10 
shoutan [?\]: yes, but need to find all threaten
]
;B[ei]C[Youssev [5d\]: K14 
]
;W[ej]C[csgo [?\]: q11
Arhiman [2k\]: oh !
lonsan [1k\]: bad threat?
Reiter101 [-\]: Another mistake
]
;B[gp]C[Arhiman [2k\]: protect from d15 threat ?
Reiter101 [-\]: e10 and q13 were mistakes
Reiter101 [-\]: he missed it i mean
adhitthana [1d\]: didnt e10 give 2 threats?
Godaisuki [1k\]: is P15 good?
Reiter101 [-\]: yes...
evanj [2d\]: but e11 keeps pressure on w's one-eyed group
Reiter101 [-\]: p15 ?
Godaisuki [1k\]: no it's not =(
Reiter101 [-\]: way too small
Reiter101 [-\]: m9 m9 m9 
lonsan [1k\]: only option
adhitthana [1d\]: w keep m9 threat until the end
Reiter101 [-\]: d15 
y0sh33 [3k\]: p15 kills upper half of corner dun it?
lonsan [1k\]: except b19 i guess
Godaisuki [1k\]: B19 now?
Youssev [5d\]: yes d15
adhitthana [1d\]: when there are no threats left
]
;W[ba]C[Soromon [1d\]: B can probably ignore m9
R3P [9k\]: if black wins, it threatens white j13?
Arhiman [2k\]: has to ignore now !
tornemhi [1d\]: e10 gives 2 threats but it makes later got more threads with c10 
lonsan [1k\]: oh yes, d15....
Over9k [2k\]: how can black ignore m9
]
;B[ab]C[Q161 [13k?\]: b cant ignore m9
adhitthana [1d\]: w got too much from this ko
]
;W[hp]C[Vibration [7k\]: ignore m9...
plamen [1k\]: q11 is a threath
Godaisuki [1k\]: he cant, that's why white is waiting to play that at the last ko
csgo [?\]: q11
Vibration [7k\]: how?
norg [3k\]: If I got a 2d account, I'd never play a ranked game on it again
]
;B[jf]C[Arhiman [2k\]: q11 not a threat
adhitthana [1d\]: ohh
Youssev [5d\]: M14
Yippie [2d\]: norg...
Soromon [1d\]: ;D
Arhiman [2k\]: lost
Yippie [2d\]: then you're trapped
Over9k [2k\]: i once got a 2d account by getting really lucky...then it turned into a 2d?
plamen [1k\]: q11 is a threat
Godaisuki [1k\]: semiai time =D
adhitthana [1d\]: that's hot
monk316 [1k\]: q11, ignore, s10?
egergre: w at least seki
Reiter101 [-\]: i once got lucky and got to 7d XD
Vibration [7k\]: no seki
Reiter101 [-\]: im only 4d
adhitthana [1d\]: no seki possible
Vibration [7k\]: youre not
]
;W[lf]C[Reiter101 [-\]: im not 4d?
]
;B[gp]C[Soromon [1d\]: Black needn't ignore anything - still has a9 and then a6
y0sh33 [3k\]: couldnt white kill faster ?
]
;W[qd]C[y0sh33 [3k\]: 9 liberties each
Godaisuki [1k\]: wasn't J18 bigger?
adhitthana [1d\]: seems to kill
norg [3k\]: This has lost me completely
monk316 [1k\]: can b start another ko with d1?
]
;B[qc]C[adhitthana [1d\]: or ko?
]
;W[hp]C[lonsan [1k\]: at first i didn't see it...nice
Reiter101 [-\]: Vibration
Ceiter [1k\]: 10 vs 11 outside liberties
Reiter101 [-\]: im not what?
adhitthana [1d\]: wasnt it ko?
]
;B[ne]
;W[lg]C[lonsan [1k\]: i think ko, probably
MythRealm [1k\]: game over
]
;B[gp]C[lonsan [1k\]: m9 gg
SFPD: hard for W to get b1 and c1
]
;W[lk]C[shoutan [?\]: J18?
Youssev [5d\]: yes
Q161 [13k?\]: !!
bobstep [2k?\]: look at Reiter's info, probably is 4d
Godaisuki [1k\]: andy's going for it
jotajota [4k\]: J18
Q161 [13k?\]: go bbw!!
lokki [3d\]: b has no more threats 
Youssev [5d\]: then w answers nothing and win the fight no ,
]
;B[kl]
;W[hp]C[lonsan [1k\]: yes, surely
plamen [1k\]: q11 
Godaisuki [1k\]: a9 not threat?
Over9k [2k\]: a9 
csgo [?\]: n15
]
;B[ak]
;W[am]C[plamen [1k\]: a9 is threat
adhitthana [1d\]: where is w's second eye?
plamen [1k\]: for seki
lonsan [1k\]: oh
Godaisuki [1k\]: do you think the game will go to 400?
Q161 [13k?\]: no
lokki [3d\]: ok and a6 too
]
;B[gp]C[Youssev [5d\]: oh yyes I forgot it :)
]
;W[ib]C[adhitthana [1d\]: ah here
Godaisuki [1k\]: ah =/
Arhiman [2k\]: too bad :(
]
;B[ic]
;W[hp]C[adhitthana [1d\]: k18?
norg [3k\]: If w loses the ko, can he still win if he plays a good endgame?
csgo [?\]: q11
plamen [1k\]: a5 
]
;B[ao]
;W[an]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: top is too big, i doubt so
derp [1k\]: q11 isn't threat
]
;B[gp]C[SFPD: q11 doesn't work
Youssev [5d\]: then a3 is threat
Godaisuki [1k\]: now a3 is threat =(
A1R [8k\]: h19
SFPD: a3 not
plamen [1k\]: what does a3 do?
Over9k [2k\]: threatens eye
lonsan [1k\]: how
Godaisuki [1k\]: destroys eye or threatens to make one
plamen [1k\]: looks like pass to me
TheCount [2d?\]: doesn't destroy
Gresil [-\]: a3, tenuki
patrickn [5k\]: a3 nothing
Godaisuki [1k\]: a3 tenuki I take a1
Arhiman [2k\]: a3 threat
Yippie [2d\]: a3 threatens ko for an eye
Godaisuki [1k\]: miai c1 and a4
Over9k [2k\]: a3 ignore a1 a4 c1 
lonsan [1k\]: ah
adhitthana [1d\]: p17?
egergre: there's damezumari
plamen [1k\]: then ko again?
plamen [1k\]: its ko again if u do that
lonsan [1k\]: yes but heavier ko for w
plamen [1k\]: no
lonsan [1k\]: err right, misread
plamen [1k\]: becouse W took j4 
Arhiman [2k\]: not ko, semeai
derp [1k\]: w has just two left, f19 h19?
plamen [1k\]: it it ko
nuBO [2k\]: w will profit
lonsan [1k\]: no semeai, b can ko for an eye
IamLucifer [1d\]: d 14?
Meepy [-\]: white needs a threat that would also make an eye
Youssev [5d\]: remining time for w plaese ?
lonsan [1k\]: about an hour+
Youssev [5d\]: remaining
Tasky [4k\]: c10 ?
Meepy [-\]: e14 maybe?
shai [1d\]: and B in byo yomi?
lonsan [1k\]: yes
Godaisuki [1k\]: H19 is big enough =/
Q161 [13k?\]: how many periods left?
csgo [?\]: h15 for w
USGO2 [-\]: 1 hour 5 minutes for Andy, still 4 periods of 30 seconds for Eric
monk316 [1k\]: lunch break?
MythRealm [1k\]: h 19 area has few threats still
Q161 [13k?\]: k18
Tasky [4k\]: didn't they already play against each other? 
Meepy [-\]: i think black can ignore h19 now
tornemhi [1d\]: c10 
Meepy [-\]: if white follows up, kill whole white group
USGO2 [-\]: Andy is "tapping" his finger in the air as he counts moves
]
;W[ha]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: lol
cheddot [-\]: nice call, meeps.
Meepy [-\]: thanks :)
shai [1d\]: close if B connects
adhitthana [1d\]: no h19 too big
freddygo [5k\]: if black lives, then w m14 group will die, right?
adhitthana [1d\]: or can b kill?
N0N4M3 [2k\]: who's broadcasting for this game?
USGO2 [-\]: 3 periods left for Eric
Q161 [13k?\]: no
patrickn [5k\]: nah m14 fine
ooOoo [1d\]: h15?
patrickn [5k\]: with o14
Q161 [13k?\]: m14 alive
jSd [8k\]: o14
Over9k [2k\]: o14 n14 n15 can make m13 live
jSd [8k\]: ans w< live noobs
]
;B[hp]
;W[fa]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: ..............
Arhiman [2k\]: wow
Soromon [1d\]: DOoooom!
lonsan [1k\]: oh man
A1R [8k\]: isnt n15 a threat
Baldanders [11k?\]: oooh
shai [1d\]: endgame finally
Meepy [-\]: now n15 area
adhitthana [1d\]: now b goes for the kill
eyeglass [?\]: endgame?
]
;B[me]C[Arhiman [2k\]: m15 ?
Reiter101 [-\]: m12 in a bit of trouble
lonsan [1k\]: not endgame yet
Godaisuki [1k\]: another fight @@
]
;W[le]C[egergre: res
USGO2 [-\]: Andy forgot to hit his clock again.
tornemhi [1d\]: g15 also in danger then
Q161 [13k?\]: lewl
norg [3k\]: He has the time to work with that
cheddot [-\]: lol.
Tasky [4k\]: so his time is running while b thinks?
Reiter101 [-\]: no way to kill i think
USGO2 [-\]: Yes
lokki [3d\]: b looks lost now
Tasky [4k\]: lol
lonsan [1k\]: looks like w game
Reiter101 [-\]: b still has tons of adji at d15 
cheddot [-\]: USGO, how much time do they each have left?
freddygo [5k\]: how can w live though
lonsan [1k\]: how can w die
egergre: k18 first maybe
Arhiman [2k\]: 1 hour white and 4 periods black
lonsan [1k\]: 3 periods
eyeglass [?\]: hit the clock Andy
csgo [?\]: why give up, b still have q11, n15 and some after n15
freddygo [5k\]: b k18 and w is trapped
USGO2 [-\]: Andy should be about 1 hour 2 minutes left now, Eric has 3 periods byo yomi
Godaisuki [1k\]: someone phone him!
lonsan [1k\]: yes, phones not banned from the tourney
USGO2 [-\]: Andy realized he forgot to hit the clock and hit it now
Soromon [1d\]: Black e13 to protect the cut at d15.
lonsan [1k\]: :)
norg [3k\]: Maybe if we all shout it together :D
]
;B[kd]C[shoutan [?\]: if b can't kill w
shoutan [?\]: lost
play234 [-\]: lucky black to get time in such a crucial moment ;)
]
;W[ld]C[Arhiman [2k\]: k18 ?
Godaisuki [1k\]: bad move L16??
ooOoo [1d\]: not killable
Tasky [4k\]: how's w supposed to get an eye??
A1R [8k\]: what is komi?
USGO2 [-\]: Andy just made an unhappy noise
patrickn [5k\]: lol
]
;B[jb]C[Q161 [13k?\]: 8
Hideto [3k\]: 7.5 ?
Over9k [2k\]: lol
]
;W[ga]C[A1R [8k\]: ok
cheddot [-\]: lol
lonsan [1k\]: uh oh
eyeglass [?\]: k19
Arhiman [2k\]: hehe
norg [3k\]: I'd be unhappy if I were andy
DrakeBell [5d\]: j15 
R3P [9k\]: j15?
egergre: w can even kill corner 
oliolioli [6k\]: d15?
plamen [1k\]: l19 
ooOoo [1d\]: ko again
Over9k [2k\]: k15 for white still i think
eyeglass [?\]: time?
SFPD: m19 is sente
monk316 [1k\]: j15?
freddygo [5k\]: oh!
jotajota [4k\]: k19
freddygo [5k\]: j15 or d15
cheddot [-\]: I dunno, I'd be hella happy if I were Andy. Means I'd be playing Board 2 ;D
eyeglass [?\]: how is b time USGO2?
plamen [1k\]: h14 
adhitthana [1d\]: w seems to live
Arhiman [2k\]: l19 ?
cheddot [-\]: (I'll never achieve that myslef)
USGO2 [-\]: He had forgotten his clock again, but just hit it
Godaisuki [1k\]: either way, it's GG
lokki [3d\]: j15
nedp [?\]: another ko?
ooOoo [1d\]: w's alive
]
;B[id]C[Q161 [13k?\]: USGO2 can you hit his clock for him >.<
Over9k [2k\]: lol
SFPD: n16
adhitthana [1d\]: with ko 
Over9k [2k\]: ko time
Q161 [13k?\]: he seems busy
Godaisuki [1k\]: another ko on top =(
cheddot [-\]: naw, Eric needs the extra time ;D
lokki [3d\]: k19 ko
tornemhi [1d\]: no ko i think it's alive 
sameasyou [2d\]: w resigned?
Arhiman [2k\]: can white add time to black ? ^^
SFPD: n16 without ko
derp [1k\]: sequence tornemhi?
tornemhi [1d\]: not now sorry
nuBO [2k\]: n14 
Arhiman [2k\]: n14 ko threat
tornemhi [1d\]: i was thinking in w l14 before b j16 
Arhiman [2k\]: don't waste it
norg [3k\]: 31 captures to 24...
nuBO [2k\]: k19 
norg [3k\]: Or 55 in total
patrickn [5k\]: o14 ko threat
ooOoo [1d\]: d15 weakness
]
;W[mf]C[norg [3k\]: 1/6th of all stones played
USGO2 [-\]: Eric shakes his head and tisks
eyeglass [?\]: one ko threat less
Godaisuki [1k\]: why waste ko threat =(
lonsan [1k\]: life without ko
]
;B[nf]
;W[md]
;B[oe]C[ikea [2d\]: w connecs
IamLucifer [1d\]: wow
nuBO [2k\]: o14 n16 p15 p17 m19 
eyeglass [?\]: 2 ko threats less
Godaisuki [1k\]: @@
adhitthana [1d\]: w missread?
Q161 [13k?\]: kill corner plzkthx
lokki [3d\]: w waste ko threats 
eyeglass [?\]: w must be very nervous
Godaisuki [1k\]: T19 NOW!!!!
sameasyou [2d\]: no missread...w connected
lonsan [1k\]: m19 not working?
tornemhi [1d\]: m19 
Over9k [2k\]: wow nice
sameasyou [2d\]: m19 working
tornemhi [1d\]: i think so
Godaisuki [1k\]: m19 doesn't work
tornemhi [1d\]: m19 or semeai for corner i think
eyeglass [?\]: it does connect
sameasyou [2d\]: poor b
norg [3k\]: m19 k19 ?
sameasyou [2d\]: he played very nice
Godaisuki [1k\]: m19 K19 o19 P19
freddygo [5k\]: over 300 moves :)
shai [1d\]: B had his hands full this game...
raifu [3k\]: who won board 3
Tasky [4k\]: if this doesn't work, he will regret not having saved that threats
Reiter101 [-\]: how does m19 work?
]
;W[kf]C[Reiter101 [-\]: just ko
]
;B[jg]C[Reiter101 [-\]: m19 does not work
Godaisuki [1k\]: ko time
norg [3k\]: Zchen won board 3
Godaisuki [1k\]: =/
Over9k [2k\]: maybe it leaves more points
eyeglass [?\]: m19 and 019
VP [1k\]: k19 ko
Arhiman [2k\]: did white forget to launch ko as he forgot to hit clock ???
Reiter101 [-\]: no
norg [3k\]: k19 for ko?
Reiter101 [-\]: m19 k19 
nuBO [2k\]: m19 k19 p17 p16 n17 
SallyGross [18k?\]: Naive comment: k19?
eyeglass [?\]: ah, p19
Reiter101 [-\]: W need to play k19 
Reiter101 [-\]: start a ko
lokki [3d\]: its ko but w should have enouhg local threats
Gresil [-\]: how does b respond to d15?
eyeglass [?\]: then 3 ko threats missed
Meepy [-\]: n14 and o16 were not really threats for white
Reiter101 [-\]: e14 most likely
lonsan [1k\]: w doesn't have the libs for d15 i think
Godaisuki [1k\]: n17 does nothing because p19 and white dies
TomGo [1k\]: m19 k19 o19 black dead
]
;W[oc]C[egergre: meepy why not?
oliolioli [6k\]: d15 looks intresting to me
]
;B[od]C[Reiter101 [-\]: Tomgo
]
;W[ma]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: o19 black p19
Reiter101 [-\]: ill open a demo
eyeglass [?\]: 4 ko threats
Reiter101 [-\]: come in
Ceiter [1k\]: I thought W could play M19 to either connect to the left or kill to the right, but....I don't see that he can actually kill N18 anyway. Am I wrong?
Meepy [-\]: because the ko would kill g18
Q161 [13k?\]: gogogo
Reiter101 [-\]: k19 
Reiter101 [-\]: oops
]
;B[oa]
;W[ja]C[Reiter101 [-\]: See
Reiter101 [-\]: ko
Reiter101 [-\]: TomGo
Reiter101 [-\]: ill open a demo
]
;B[ka]
;W[kb]C[SallyGross [18k?\]: Ah ... the chain can now live
Reiter101 [-\]: at the EGR
sameasyou [2d\]: no threats for b
]
;B[ia]
;W[de]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: white regrets reducing ko threat=*
]
;B[ef]C[PowerTower [1d\]: "Large Gropus never die...."
]
;W[ja]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: too big to ignore?
SallyGross [18k?\]: k19 puts w comfortably ahead ... it has turned the game
Q161 [13k?\]: w win this ko!
Arhiman [2k\]: g1 ?
Gresil [-\]: usgo, are there many people watching around the board?
plamen [1k\]: q11 !!!
Brian90 [12k\]: G2
lokki [3d\]: g1
Arhiman [2k\]: g1
adhitthana [1d\]: g1
lonsan [1k\]: g1 c1 threats
Brian90 [12k\]: g1 better. ya
USGO2 [-\]: There are 8 or so
fosil [-\]: q11
tornemhi [1d\]: c9 lots of threats
sameasyou [2d\]: b 10 points behind at least now
Reiter101 [-\]: TomGo 
]
;B[pi]C[Reiter101 [-\]: what you said before was so wrong...
lokki [3d\]: wat
Brian90 [12k\]: maybe b should just play D14 though
Reiter101 [-\]: that b would have died
adhitthana [1d\]: no threat?
lonsan [1k\]: no i don't think so...
USGO2 [-\]: Andy had forgotten to hit the clock again, but nobody realized until Eric tried to hit his and it didn't do anything
siruos [?\]: Black has s10
Arhiman [2k\]: ignore
Tasky [4k\]: I still dont get why w wasted 4 threats
sameasyou [2d\]: this is huge threat...s10 next
Q161 [13k?\]: cant ignore
Godaisuki [1k\]: cant ignore =(
csgo [?\]: it's hugh tail
plamen [1k\]: how can u ignore this?
lonsan [1k\]: ah
egergre: tasky to make d15 thrats
Arhiman [2k\]: r11 s10 ignore, no ?
adhitthana [1d\]: ah it is a threat
Godaisuki [1k\]: S10 and back to ko =(
ooOoo [1d\]: s10 is good enough
MythRealm [1k\]: ko fight not over huh
adhitthana [1d\]: hmm
]
;W[rj]C[adhitthana [1d\]: t15 sente for w, no?
ooOoo [1d\]: d14 is destructive
]
;B[ia]C[TheCount [2d?\]: after c10 and b11, w is short of threats
Warfreak2 [5d\]: t15 not w sente
PowerTower [1d\]: damn kewl this is
Q161 [13k?\]: n17 
Godaisuki [1k\]: N14 exchange cost the game =(
Thorvald [7k\]: H14
sameasyou [2d\]: I only see d1 for b
freddygo [5k\]: why didnt w just r11?
R3P [9k\]: white has plenty of threats at c10
adhitthana [1d\]: h14
NateC [2d\]: adhitthana, t15 ignore t17 q19 p18 t18
Godaisuki [1k\]: r11 s0 more threats
USGO2 [-\]: Andy is hesitating over D14
Godaisuki [1k\]: s10*
]
;W[df]C[adhitthana [1d\]: yes, the throw in
XSpanier [1k\]: w+6.5
PowerTower [1d\]: E13 would have been better?
]
;B[eg]
;W[ja]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: not likely
sameasyou [2d\]: d1
Arhiman [2k\]: what a game !
Godaisuki [1k\]: C10 still threat enough =)
csgo [?\]: g1
]
;B[gs]
;W[gr]
;B[ia]C[PowerTower [1d\]: yes, i know
]
;W[he]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: c10 still five threats.
MythRealm [1k\]: B's left side is also suffers
adhitthana [1d\]: the problem with c10 is that e17 would die
]
;B[hf]
;W[ja]C[PowerTower [1d\]: oh ok
adhitthana [1d\]: h14 better
Godaisuki [1k\]: it wont @@
csgo [?\]: c1
USGO2 [-\]: Andy forgot the clock again
lonsan [1k\]: lol
Q161 [13k?\]: tell him never to do it again
Gresil [-\]: baaaad wolf
TeeSushi [3d\]: move 328 wtf
TeeSushi [3d\]: many kos i guess
tornemhi [1d\]: andy = big bad wolf?
Tasky [4k\]: longest game ever!!
USGO2 [-\]: Eric thinks on his opponent's time
Gresil [-\]: he should go stand in the corner.
N0N4M3 [2k\]: what are the times for both players?
Arhiman [2k\]: not the longest
Over9k [2k\]: no fengyun had a longer one last year
adhitthana [1d\]: ah h15 better
adhitthana [1d\]: oh no
Arhiman [2k\]: longest is 400 or more
adhitthana [1d\]: h14 better:-)
norg [3k\]: Is eric in Byo yomi?
USGO2 [-\]: Andy hit his clock now
Thorvald [7k\]: tornemhi [1d\]: andy = big bad wolf?
patrickn [5k\]: hes in andy yomi
Tasky [4k\]: is w doing it on purpose to forget his clock?
plamen [1k\]: B has d1 that makes 2 threaths
Godaisuki [1k\]: but white has c10 @@
]
;B[ds]
;W[cs]C[Holmes [-\]: yes, andy liu is bbw
Arhiman [2k\]: wow, is Andy giving time to Eric on purpose actually, USGO2 ???
]
;B[ia]C[Thorvald [7k\]: merci Holmes
]
;W[ie]C[adhitthana [1d\]: this is only 1 threat
adhitthana [1d\]: and a half
Godaisuki [1k\]: if B1 next then white just take the top ko and start another ko at the side
]
;B[je]
;W[ja]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: god, the ko at the bottom is smaller but w has no local threats for that ko
Warfreak2 [5d\]: so it's easier for w to lose
]
;B[bs]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: w has five local threats at c10 for this ko
]
;W[la]C[egergre: ignore
lonsan [1k\]: lol
plamen [1k\]: n17 he has
Arhiman [2k\]: wow
jSd [8k\]: c10 now
Godaisuki [1k\]: white can excahgnge for the left side =)
tornemhi [1d\]: wow
Arhiman [2k\]: what a game !
monk316 [1k\]: h18 was a good threat?
Holmes [-\]: o_o
TheCount [2d?\]: the c10 threats are pretty big
egergre: smaller ko anyway
]
;B[ds]
;W[cf]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: andy has same thoughts as me =)
Youssev [5d\]: lot of threats for W at c14
monk316 [1k\]: no
KlerChazal [-\]: he still has a lot of threat 
Kumoriha [-\]: Yay another ko >_>
plamen [1k\]: resige
Tasky [4k\]: can w kill upper right?
]
;B[bf]C[tornemhi [1d\]: warfreak, why does w play that KO without spending c10 threats that are local for upper KO?
]
;W[cs]C[Q161 [13k?\]: this ko amazing for w
XSpanier [1k\]: h18
Warfreak2 [5d\]: torn, i don't know
Godaisuki [1k\]: smaller ko = better XD
]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]C[lonsan [1k\]: not if you can't lose the bigger ko
adhitthana [1d\]: who is ahead besides the ko?
]
;B[ds]C[XSpanier [1k\]: w
USGO2 [-\]: Both players are just playing on Andy's time now
lonsan [1k\]: hahaha
Q161 [13k?\]: lolol
Godaisuki [1k\]: if B13 another ko T_T?
Tasky [4k\]: omg
TheCount [2d?\]: who is ahead, beside the score?
Over9k [2k\]: c13 ?
]
;W[cg]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: w has won
USGO2 [-\]: That was an extremely hesitant move
Tasky [4k\]: maybe w dont want to win on time
norg [3k\]: Is Andy doing that on purpose?
bobstep [2k?\]: w has n17
tornemhi [1d\]: lansan how can w looser the upper KO with 4 more threats as local in c10 ;?
Arhiman [2k\]: I still think Andy do it on purpose ^^
]
;B[bg]
;W[cs]C[KlerChazal [-\]: i liked b13 more
lonsan [1k\]: i am agreeing with you torn, i was disagreeing with god
XSpanier [1k\]: dont see a threat
Warfreak2 [5d\]: b13 costs points
egergre: b13 loses
eyeglass [?\]: t5?
TeeSushi [3d\]: t18 before n17
Godaisuki [1k\]: R19 still got threats
Over9k [2k\]: c13 gives d11 
KlerChazal [-\]: but gives another threat
adhitthana [1d\]: the problem with c10 is that half of the group would die
Godaisuki [1k\]: @adhitthana... how?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: you will pay points for the privelige of continuing the ko?
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;B[qf]
;W[qg]C[adhitthana [1d\]: b would ignore c10
KlerChazal [-\]: if it makes me win it i guess yes :).
Thorvald [7k\]: D11 for w
Godaisuki [1k\]: white is saying: i have more threats
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;B[ds]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: XD
]
;W[di]C[KlerChazal [-\]: but well, i didnt count every ko threats.
Thorvald [7k\]: :p
Arhiman [2k\]: 7k move ^^
]
;B[dh]
;W[cs]C[Arhiman [2k\]: s15
norg [3k\]: This game is immense
Warfreak2 [5d\]: here is how to beat 1 dan in handicap game
Warfreak2 [5d\]: start a big ko
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;B[qi]C[Q161 [13k?\]: this game was incredible
Warfreak2 [5d\]: worth say 30 points.
Godaisuki [1k\]: start 3 big kos =)
Brian90 [12k\]: I like d9 for white
Q161 [13k?\]: all territory vanished into ko fights
Warfreak2 [5d\]: lose the ko and get a threat worth not enough, say 15 points
egergre: ?\\
]
;W[ds]C[PowerTower [1d\]: 5dans are evils
adhitthana [1d\]: ignore
]
;B[ri]
;W[si]C[Over9k [2k\]: black go bye bye
egergre: res
Warfreak2 [5d\]: but the 1 dan will play several threats which each cost a few points
Warfreak2 [5d\]: = net profit for me :>
Gryning [4k\]: lol
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;B[se]C[PowerTower [1d\]: yes
Godaisuki [1k\]: @@
Godaisuki [1k\]: lol @warfreak
PowerTower [1d\]: evil u r :-)
egergre: b drunk?
USGO2 [-\]: The players must exchange prisoners, Eric is out of stones
Godaisuki [1k\]: @@
Godaisuki [1k\]: T15????
R3P [9k\]: t9?
adhitthana [1d\]: it's big esente
Q161 [13k?\]: lolol
TeeSushi [3d\]: lol
Over9k [2k\]: lolol
Arhiman [2k\]: haha
XSpanier [1k\]: lol
Godaisuki [1k\]: white T7 =)
MythRealm [1k\]: t5
norg [3k\]: t14?
Tasky [4k\]: so what happens?
Arhiman [2k\]: epic game !!!!!!!
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;W[sl]C[PowerTower [1d\]: memeory full - no bits left
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;B[so]C[norg [3k\]: ?!
tornemhi [1d\]: w q1 = seki ;?
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;W[cj]C[Tasky [4k\]: they borrow stones from another table?
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;B[bj]C[antonk [4k\]: Q1?
]
;W[sm]C[tornemhi [1d\]: or im really stupid
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;B[ps]C[antonk [4k\]: ah
Godaisuki [1k\]: lol....
Godaisuki [1k\]: white does not need Q1
jSd [8k\]: how< they can exhange prisdonnersd
jSd [8k\]: .
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;W[re]C[eyeglass [?\]: he does Godaisuki
Warfreak2 [5d\]: move 364 :>
freddygo [5k\]: this is the most filled up board ive ever seen
Hylebos [3k\]: Wow.
PowerTower [1d\]: hanemashi?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: of course they're out of stones, together they played more stones than can fit on the board
adhitthana [1d\]: how big is w's lead?
Hylebos [3k\]: Those captures?
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;B[qj]C[Hylebos [3k\]: Crazy.
baitem [3k\]: bloody game here
Godaisuki [1k\]: white already won
]
;W[sk]C[norg [3k\]: Have they pulled stones from another board?
Hylebos [3k\]: Are the bowls overflowing?
patrickn [5k\]: i saw a coolbabe game that went to likie move 380+ lets see if this goes higher
Gryning [4k\]: yeah, safe win
xXARKXx [4k\]: O_O!!!
Gryning [4k\]: now that ko went well ^^;;
Warfreak2 [5d\]: there are a shockingly large number of dame, considering
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;B[na]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: what kind of counting is used?
]
;W[kc]
;B[jd]C[Gryning [4k\]: this game would have murdered my nerves
Warfreak2 [5d\]: in ing rules the players must fill the dame
jSd [8k\]: they cant exchange prisonners
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;W[jn]C[Q161 [13k?\]: so little territory...
monk316 [1k\]: 400 move game
]
;B[pa]C[Q161 [13k?\]: ...
]
;W[aq]C[XSpanier [1k\]: what happens if b has no more stones? XD
Brian90 [12k\]: so many caps. so little territory
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;B[bi]
;W[ca]C[robertm [1d\]: us open game, not ing
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;B[sq]
;W[sf]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: caps>terri
Brian90 [12k\]: both players have 0 points
]
;B[sc]C[ooOoo [1d\]: more than 10 pts
]
;W[mr]
;B[kq]C[mini [4d\]: W++
Godaisuki [1k\]: white can spare some sontes in B terri XD
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;W[do]
;B[dk]C[norg [3k\]: Filling in dame?
Godaisuki [1k\]: w+10 like that?
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;W[aa]C[egergre: why fill dame?
KlerChazal [-\]: aga rules
Brian90 [12k\]: what happens when both players have 0 points?
mini [4d\]: 15
Hylebos [3k\]: Its American Rules norg.
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;B[dg]
;W[mc]
;B[ke]
;W[kg]C[Hylebos [3k\]: Gotta fill Dame.
TeeSushi [3d\]: w+12
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;B[ff]C[robertm [1d\]: white must play last
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;W[gm]C[Hylebos [3k\]: ...Or at least I guess.
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;B[as]C[patrickn [5k\]: fill that dame up
antonk [4k\]: W+22
foshizzle [12k\]: wow crazy game
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;W[gl]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: oh, it's aga rules, i was getting confused with egc
Godaisuki [1k\]: no 400 T_T
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;B[ij]
;W[ms]
;B[sn]
;W[ph]C[freddygo [5k\]: w+23.5 says se
Arhiman [2k\]: w+13
mini [4d\]: +15
Hylebos [3k\]: Silly Warfreak.
lonsan [1k\]: se can't count aga
norg [3k\]: 6 more moves! :P
Gresil [-\]: did those famous 400+ move games include dame filling in the move count?
IamLucifer [1d\]: wow, bbw is amazing, very hard game for w
Q161 [13k?\]: epic game
XSpanier [1k\]: w is bbw?
Tasky [4k\]: so many stones on dame points
egergre: yes
adhitthana [1d\]: 17
Gresil [-\]: and b is pianist...
Warfreak2 [5d\]: look at this block of stones from c16 to l6
Arhiman [2k\]: w+13
Warfreak2 [5d\]: not a single empty space in this rectangle
Godaisuki [1k\]: lol
Asaliuru [19k\]: epic :D
TheCount [2d?\]: 20 points of territory each
XSpanier [1k\]: a16 too
Kumoriha [-\]: Look at the captures XP
play234 [-\]: great game
patrickn [5k\]: keep in mind 7.5 komi too :P
Planets [7k\]: Did the 8p lose somewhere?
foshizzle [12k\]: has someone won?
USGO2 [-\]: W+ 12.5
Godaisuki [1k\]: board one is boring =(
norg [3k\]: 78
lokki [3d\]: gg
Arhiman [2k\]: thanks USGO2 ^^
globax [4d\]: thank you and the players so much, usgo2:)
Q161 [13k?\]: thanks
Varadero [6k\]: mi is 8
XSpanier [1k\]: thanks usgo
Q161 [13k?\]: amazing game
Godaisuki [1k\]: thanks USGO!!
patrickn [5k\]: yeah thanks that was great
Varadero [6k\]: komi
lonsan [1k\]: thank you USGO2
lokki [3d\]: thx for very fun game ^^
lonsan [1k\]: amazing game
Baldanders [11k?\]: I can't beleive Andy pulled that one out
foshizzle [12k\]: who won
lonsan [1k\]: w
raifu [3k\]: great game
Gryning [4k\]: white by 12.5
norg [3k\]: about 1/5th of all stones played were captured
Thorvald [7k\]: j'ai du mal à comprendre le nombre de captures vu comme le goban est blindé
eyeglass [?\]: thank you USGO2
antonk [4k\]: thx
XSpanier [1k\]: well it continues ericdai wants to play :p
USGO2 [-\]: You are certainly welcome! :)
Over9k [2k\]: where can i find scores?
Holmes [-\]: 361 intersections, 78 captures, 394 moves, some empty spaces left :)
Over9k [2k\]: nvm got it thanks usgo2
Tasky [4k\]: w should play b7  now
USGO2 [-\]: Results for the US Open can be found at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
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ericdai [9d?\]: wow
ericdai [9d?\]: what a game
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